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Volevamo presentare la nuova "Sezione 11 settembre" per… l'undici di settembre, appunto, ma il fatto che io abbia dovuto preparare d'urgenza il filmato da mandare a Mentana (per ora ne sono passati 10 minuti, ma io ne ho montati e mandati 25) ovviamente ci ha obbligato a rimandare tutto di nuovo.
Visto che la nuova sezione aprirà con una lunga lista di questioni irrisolte, ancora da completare, pubblichiamo nel frattempo la sua versione provvisoria, che è la stessa del filmato andato in onda ieri a Matrix. Come noterà chiunque abbia seguito con attenzione, la "controparte" evita accuratamente di prenderne in considerazione alcune, che sono fondamentali, mentre finge di scoprire l'acqua calda su argomenti - come il "pod" - che qui nessuno ha mai sollevato. Come ha detto giustamente Maurizio Blondet in trasmissione, se permettete le nostre obiezioni le scegliamo noi.
E chi vuole sostenere seriamente la versione ufficiale deve poter dare una risposta CONVINCENTE a TUTTE queste obiezioni, e non solo una MEZZA RISPOSTA qui e là, di quelle che stanno in piedi per miracolo, e solo su ALCUNE di queste obiezioni.
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(Testo dalla prima parte del film "La verità di cristallo", in lavorazione):
Nei cinque anni che sono trascorsi dall'11 settembre 2001, è emersa una lunga serie di indizi che portano a dubitare fortemente della versione ufficiale dei fatti fornita al mondo dal governo americano. Questo è un riassunto dei più importanti.
1 - Il foro di entrata nel Pentagono risulta molto piccolo per aver inghiottito un intero Boeing da 100 tonnellate, che è largo circa il doppio della facciata distrutta.
2 - La maggioranza delle finestre attorno al foro è rimasta in piedi, e molte di queste conservano ancora i vetri intatti.
3 - Sul prato antistante ci sono mille frammenti e piccoli rottami, ma nulla che si possa ricondurre con certezza a un Boeing 757.
4 - Non ci sono valigie, sedili, portelloni, pezzi dì ala o di fusoliera, non c'è nulla che indichi che si trattasse di un normale volo di linea, carico di passeggeri.
5 - Di fronte a un aereo che sembra scomparso nel nulla, non si capisce quale sua parte fosse invece così robusta da aver attraversato ben tre anelli dell'edificio, abbattendo dozzine di colonne di cemento armato, per lasciare un foro di uscita molto simile a quello di entrata. L'oggetto misterioso, infatti, non ci è mai stato mostrato.
6 - Delle molte telecamere di sicurezza che circondano il Pentagono, e che devono per forza aver inquadrato l'aereo che passava, non ci è mai stato mostrato un solo fotogramma da cui si possa riconoscere che aereo fosse.
7 - La manovra di approccio rasoterra appare del tutto illogica per chi fosse arrivato a quel punto in vista del Pentagono, mentre è ritenuta decisamente difficile, a causa delle turbolenze create dai grossi jet, persino per consumati piloti professionisti.
8 - Mentre alla guida dell'aereo c'era un dilettante dell'aria che non aveva mai guidato un jet nella sua vita, e che era considerato dagli istruttori di volo un tale incapace da non avergli mai affidato nemmeno un piccolo aereo da turismo per volare da solo.
9 - Nemmeno gli altri dirottatori avevano mai guidato un jet nella loro vita. Nonostante questo, sono stati perfettamente in grado di impadronirsi dei comandi, e due di loro hanno saputo ritrovare, senza nessun aiuto da terra, dei bersagli distanti centinaia di miglia, per poi centrarli con assoluta precisione. Viste da sotto, le Torri possono anche apparire enormi, ma dal cielo sono poco più di due matite che spuntano appena da una jungla di edifici tutti uguali.
10 - Dopo averla messa a punto per cinque anni, i dirottatori hanno adottato una strategia che li condannava già in partenza ad essere intercettati prima di arrivare al bersaglio. Per riuscirci, dovevano per forza contare in anticipo sullo stallo totale della difesa aerea che è poi avvenuto, ma che nessuno al mondo poteva prevedere. A meno di fare tutti parte di un piano molto più grande di loro.
11 - Dell'intero apparato di sicurezza, sia civile che militare, non è mai stata identificata nè punita una sola persona per i gravi errori che sono costati la vita a tremila persone. Alcuni militari di alto livello, direttamente coinvolti nella mancata difesa, sono anzi stati promossi a gradi ancora più alti.
12 - Una testimonianza del ministro dei trasporti rivela come la Casa Bianca conoscesse molto bene la posizione dell'aereo che stava puntando su Washington, ma non risulta che abbia fatto nulla per fermarlo.
13 - Nonostante debbano esistere per forza, non ci è mai stata mostrata una sola immagine che permetta di identificare con chiarezza i dirottatori agli imbarchi dei 4 aerei. L'unica in cui è riconoscibile Mohammed Attà, stranamente non appartiene al volo dirottato, ma a un volo precedente.
14 - Sulle liste passeggeri, inoltre, non compariva un solo nome arabo.
15 - Non si capisce quindi come abbia fatto l'FBI a fornire al mondo, nell'arco di sole 48 ore, la completa identità di tutti e dicciannove i dirottatori, con tanto di fotografia per ciascuno.
16 - Le Torri Gemelle erano state progettate espressamente per reggere con ampio margine all'impatto di un aereo di quelle dimensioni. Se fossero quindi crollate a causa degli impatti e degli incendi, come sostiene la versione ufficiale, non si capisce perchè non sia stata intentata nessuna causa, nè civile nè penale, contro i progettisti o i costruttori, che a quel punto sarebbero responsabili per la morte di tutti coloro che erano sopravvissuti agli impatti iniziali.
17 - Il kerosene non è mai stato in grado di sciogliere l'acciaio, e difficilmente avrebbe potuto anche solo ammorbidirlo, poichè l'acciaio è anche un eccezionale conduttore di calore, che viene quindi disperso immediatamente per tutta la struttura di supporto, che a sua volta è profondamente conficcata nel terreno.
18 - In ogni caso, la tesi del calore come causa del crollo strutturale è contraddetta dal fatto che almeno diciotto persone siano riuscite a discendere, dopo l'impatto, da una scala centrale rimasta intatta, per poi uscire sane e salve dall'edificio, prima che crollasse. Se in quella zona ci fosse stata una temperatura di 800° gradi, che è la minima necessaria per ammorbidire l'acciaio, nessuno avrebbe mai potuto transitarvi vivo.
19 - Vi sono invece dozzine di testimonianze che parlano di forti esplosioni, avvenute prima e durante i crolli stessi.
20 - Molte riprese televisive mostrano i classici squibs, o "sbuffi", che sono tipici delle demolizioni controllate, mentre sono ben difficili da spiegare con il crollo dei pavimenti, che erano dei semplici pannelli prefabbricati.
21 - Lo stesso crollo dei pavimenti non è sufficiente a spiegare una forza orizzontale che ha scagliato cemento e acciaio a distanze pari almeno alla larghezza della Torre stessa, mandando interi blocchi della stuttura esterna a conficcarsi negli edifici circostanti.
22 - La velocità di caduta delle tre torri è molto simile a quella delle demolizioni controllate, dove è l'improvvisa mancanza del supporto dei piloni a far cadere l'edificio, e non viceversa. Se invece fosse stato l'edificio, cadendo, a distruggere i piloni di supporto, avrebbe dovuto accumularsi un certo ritardo, fra il crollo di un piano e quello successivo, che invece non c'è stato.
23 - Il fatto che una Torre alta quattrocento metri cada da sola interamente sulla propria base, senza colpire nessun edificio accanto, è altamente improbabile. Che lo facciano due edifici simili, che fra l'altro sono stati colpiti in modo molto diverso, sfida le più robuste leggi statistiche.
24 - Che poi lo abbia fatto anche un terzo edificio, che non era nemmeno stato colpito da un aereo, rende la cosa davvero difficile da credere. Mentre questo è proprio il risultato che si sarebbe voluto ottenere, per ciascun edificio, nel caso di una demolizione controllata.
25 - Al di là della dinamica di caduta, nessun moderno edificio in acciaio al mondo è mai crollato a causa di un incendio. Non a caso, nessuno ha mai saputo spiegare in maniera credibile come la Torre numero 7 possa averlo fatto.
26 - Anche la completa polverizzazione degli edifici è del tutto incompatibile con un cedimento strutturale, mentre è proprio il risultato ottimale in una demolizione controllata.
27 - A un mese e mezzo dai crolli, sono state trovate fra le macerie delle pozze di acciaio incandescente, assolutamente incompatibili con un semplice cedimento strutturale.
28 - Siamo quindi di fronte a molteplici elementi, che da una parte impediscono di spiegare i crolli come semplice risultato degli impatti e degli incendi, mentre dall'altra corrispondono in pieno ai più noti effetti delle demolizioni controllate.
29 - La versione ufficiale, in cui il volo UNITED 93 sarebbe stato abbattuto dai passeggeri in rivolta, è contraddetta da svariate testimonianze di resti umani e di rottami trovati nel raggio di alcune miglia dal luogo dell'impatto.
30 - L'unica immagine scattata dopo l'impatto mostra il fungo tipico di una bomba, e non la classica colonna di fumo che si alza al cielo quando cade un aereo carico di carburante.
31 - Nonostante la buca contenesse solo dei frammenti generici, in nessun modo riconducibili ad un Boeing, a distanza di quasi 5 anni sono comparse delle immagini in cui i resti di un Boeing si vedono molto bene. Qui c'è addirittura un motore, che però nessuno aveva notato nel giorno del disastro, e che non risulta da nessuna delle foto originali, pubblicate ai tempi dell'incidente.
32 - Altrettanto sorprendentemente, da un aereo che non si trova si sarebbero salvati: il documento di identità di un dirottatore, il testamento di un dirottatore, il bandana di un dirottatore, il coltellino di un dirottatore, la foto del passaporto di un dirottatore.
(Questa lista è ancora in via di definizione, ma basta e avanza per chi voglia confrontarsi seriamente con il problema) .
M.M.
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CITAZIONE (AdamClayton @ 13/9/2006, 13:48)(Testo dalla prima parte del film "La verità di cristallo", in lavorazione):
Nei cinque anni che sono trascorsi dall'11 settembre 2001, è emersa una lunga serie di indizi che portano a dubitare fortemente della versione ufficiale dei fatti fornita al mondo dal governo americano. Questo è un riassunto dei più importanti.
X - Il foro di entrata nel Pentagono risulta molto piccolo per aver inghiottito un intero Boeing da 100 tonnellate, che è largo circa il doppio della facciata distrutta.
2 - La maggioranza delle finestre attorno al foro è rimasta in piedi, e molte di queste conservano ancora i vetri intatti.
X - Sul prato antistante ci sono mille frammenti e piccoli rottami, ma nulla che si possa ricondurre con certezza a un Boeing 757.
X - Non ci sono valigie, sedili, portelloni, pezzi dì ala o di fusoliera, non c'è nulla che indichi che si trattasse di un normale volo di linea, carico di passeggeri.
X - Di fronte a un aereo che sembra scomparso nel nulla, non si capisce quale sua parte fosse invece così robusta da aver attraversato ben tre anelli dell'edificio, abbattendo dozzine di colonne di cemento armato, per lasciare un foro di uscita molto simile a quello di entrata. L'oggetto misterioso, infatti, non ci è mai stato mostrato.
6 - Delle molte telecamere di sicurezza che circondano il Pentagono, e che devono per forza aver inquadrato l'aereo che passava, non ci è mai stato mostrato un solo fotogramma da cui si possa riconoscere che aereo fosse.
7 - La manovra di approccio rasoterra appare del tutto illogica per chi fosse arrivato a quel punto in vista del Pentagono, mentre è ritenuta decisamente difficile, a causa delle turbolenze create dai grossi jet, persino per consumati piloti professionisti.
8 - Mentre alla guida dell'aereo c'era un dilettante dell'aria che non aveva mai guidato un jet nella sua vita, e che era considerato dagli istruttori di volo un tale incapace da non avergli mai affidato nemmeno un piccolo aereo da turismo per volare da solo.
9 - Nemmeno gli altri dirottatori avevano mai guidato un jet nella loro vita. Nonostante questo, sono stati perfettamente in grado di impadronirsi dei comandi, e due di loro hanno saputo ritrovare, senza nessun aiuto da terra, dei bersagli distanti centinaia di miglia, per poi centrarli con assoluta precisione. Viste da sotto, le Torri possono anche apparire enormi, ma dal cielo sono poco più di due matite che spuntano appena da una jungla di edifici tutti uguali.
X - Dopo averla messa a punto per cinque anni, i dirottatori hanno adottato una strategia che li condannava già in partenza ad essere intercettati prima di arrivare al bersaglio. Per riuscirci, dovevano per forza contare in anticipo sullo stallo totale della difesa aerea che è poi avvenuto, ma che nessuno al mondo poteva prevedere. A meno di fare tutti parte di un piano molto più grande di loro.
11 - Dell'intero apparato di sicurezza, sia civile che militare, non è mai stata identificata nè punita una sola persona per i gravi errori che sono costati la vita a tremila persone. Alcuni militari di alto livello, direttamente coinvolti nella mancata difesa, sono anzi stati promossi a gradi ancora più alti.
X - Una testimonianza del ministro dei trasporti rivela come la Casa Bianca conoscesse molto bene la posizione dell'aereo che stava puntando su Washington, ma non risulta che abbia fatto nulla per fermarlo.
X - Nonostante debbano esistere per forza, non ci è mai stata mostrata una sola immagine che permetta di identificare con chiarezza i dirottatori agli imbarchi dei 4 aerei. L'unica in cui è riconoscibile Mohammed Attà, stranamente non appartiene al volo dirottato, ma a un volo precedente.
X - Sulle liste passeggeri, inoltre, non compariva un solo nome arabo.
15 - Non si capisce quindi come abbia fatto l'FBI a fornire al mondo, nell'arco di sole 48 ore, la completa identità di tutti e dicciannove i dirottatori, con tanto di fotografia per ciascuno.
X - Le Torri Gemelle erano state progettate espressamente per reggere con ampio margine all'impatto di un aereo di quelle dimensioni. Se fossero quindi crollate a causa degli impatti e degli incendi, come sostiene la versione ufficiale, non si capisce perchè non sia stata intentata nessuna causa, nè civile nè penale, contro i progettisti o i costruttori, che a quel punto sarebbero responsabili per la morte di tutti coloro che erano sopravvissuti agli impatti iniziali. (QUANDO FURONO PROGETTATE LE TORRI GEMELLE NON ESISTEVANO GLI ATTUALI AEREI DI LINEA)
X - Il kerosene non è mai stato in grado di sciogliere l'acciaio, e difficilmente avrebbe potuto anche solo ammorbidirlo, poichè l'acciaio è anche un eccezionale conduttore di calore, che viene quindi disperso immediatamente per tutta la struttura di supporto, che a sua volta è profondamente conficcata nel terreno.
18 - In ogni caso, la tesi del calore come causa del crollo strutturale è contraddetta dal fatto che almeno diciotto persone siano riuscite a discendere, dopo l'impatto, da una scala centrale rimasta intatta, per poi uscire sane e salve dall'edificio, prima che crollasse. Se in quella zona ci fosse stata una temperatura di 800° gradi, che è la minima necessaria per ammorbidire l'acciaio, nessuno avrebbe mai potuto transitarvi vivo.
19 - Vi sono invece dozzine di testimonianze che parlano di forti esplosioni, avvenute prima e durante i crolli stessi.
X - Molte riprese televisive mostrano i classici squibs, o "sbuffi", che sono tipici delle demolizioni controllate, mentre sono ben difficili da spiegare con il crollo dei pavimenti, che erano dei semplici pannelli prefabbricati. (INFATTI SONO LE ESPLOSIONI DELLE CONDUTTURE DEL GAS)
X - Lo stesso crollo dei pavimenti non è sufficiente a spiegare una forza orizzontale che ha scagliato cemento e acciaio a distanze pari almeno alla larghezza della Torre stessa, mandando interi blocchi della stuttura esterna a conficcarsi negli edifici circostanti.
22 - La velocità di caduta delle tre torri è molto simile a quella delle demolizioni controllate, dove è l'improvvisa mancanza del supporto dei piloni a far cadere l'edificio, e non viceversa. Se invece fosse stato l'edificio, cadendo, a distruggere i piloni di supporto, avrebbe dovuto accumularsi un certo ritardo, fra il crollo di un piano e quello successivo, che invece non c'è stato.
X - Il fatto che una Torre alta quattrocento metri cada da sola interamente sulla propria base, senza colpire nessun edificio accanto, è altamente improbabile. Che lo facciano due edifici simili, che fra l'altro sono stati colpiti in modo molto diverso, sfida le più robuste leggi statistiche.
X - Che poi lo abbia fatto anche un terzo edificio, che non era nemmeno stato colpito da un aereo, rende la cosa davvero difficile da credere. Mentre questo è proprio il risultato che si sarebbe voluto ottenere, per ciascun edificio, nel caso di una demolizione controllata.
X - Al di là della dinamica di caduta, nessun moderno edificio in acciaio al mondo è mai crollato a causa di un incendio. Non a caso, nessuno ha mai saputo spiegare in maniera credibile come la Torre numero 7 possa averlo fatto. (NESSUN EDIFICIO ALTO 400 METRI E' MAI RIMASTO IN PIEDI ALL'IMPATTO CON UN BOEING)
26 - Anche la completa polverizzazione degli edifici è del tutto incompatibile con un cedimento strutturale, mentre è proprio il risultato ottimale in una demolizione controllata.
X - A un mese e mezzo dai crolli, sono state trovate fra le macerie delle pozze di acciaio incandescente, assolutamente incompatibili con un semplice cedimento strutturale. (MA COMPATIBILI CON L'ESPLOSIONE DI UN BOEING)
28 - Siamo quindi di fronte a molteplici elementi, che da una parte impediscono di spiegare i crolli come semplice risultato degli impatti e degli incendi, mentre dall'altra corrispondono in pieno ai più noti effetti delle demolizioni controllate.
29 - La versione ufficiale, in cui il volo UNITED 93 sarebbe stato abbattuto dai passeggeri in rivolta, è contraddetta da svariate testimonianze di resti umani e di rottami trovati nel raggio di alcune miglia dal luogo dell'impatto.
30 - L'unica immagine scattata dopo l'impatto mostra il fungo tipico di una bomba, e non la classica colonna di fumo che si alza al cielo quando cade un aereo carico di carburante.
X - Nonostante la buca contenesse solo dei frammenti generici, in nessun modo riconducibili ad un Boeing, a distanza di quasi 5 anni sono comparse delle immagini in cui i resti di un Boeing si vedono molto bene. Qui c'è addirittura un motore, che però nessuno aveva notato nel giorno del disastro, e che non risulta da nessuna delle foto originali, pubblicate ai tempi dell'incidente.
32 - Altrettanto sorprendentemente, da un aereo che non si trova si sarebbero salvati: il documento di identità di un dirottatore, il testamento di un dirottatore, il bandana di un dirottatore, il coltellino di un dirottatore, la foto del passaporto di un dirottatore.
(Questa lista è ancora in via di definizione, ma basta e avanza per chi voglia confrontarsi seriamente con il problema) .
M.M.
con la X i punti falsi o già confutati, sia in rete che nei topic su questo forum. robe di anni fa. ripetute 100 volte e sempre coperte da altri articoli sempre più lunghi.
il 99% dei punti rimanenti sono conclusioni/opinioni tratte dai punti confutati. -
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CITAZIONEcon la X i punti falsi o già confutati,
Ne ho scelto uno a caso. E pi gli avvoltoi siamo noi.
La foto originale l'ho già postata almeno due anni fa in un articolo di Paul Craig Roberts.
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11
American Airlines Flight 11, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center with 92 people on board.
CREW
John Ogonowski, 52, of Dracut, Massachusetts, was the pilot of Flight 11. He lived on a 150-acre farm north of Boston. He is survived by his wife, Margaret, and three daughters, Laura, 16; Caroline, 14; and Mary, 11. A lifelong aviation buff, he joined the Air Force after graduating from college and flew planes at the close of the Vietnam War. He joined American Airlines in 1979.
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, was Flight 11's co-pilot. He is survived by his wife, Cheryl, and a 14-year-old son and 16-year-old daughter. He was active in Bethany Church in Greenland, New Hampshire, friends and neighbors told The Boston Globe. Rick DeKoven, a church administrator, described him as "a devoted family man."
Barbara Arestegui, 38, was a flight attendant from Marstons Mills, Massachusetts.
Jeffrey Collman was a flight attendant.
Sara Low, 28, was a flight attendant from Batesville, Arkansas.
Karen Martin was a flight attendant.
Kathleen Nicosia was a flight attendant.
Betty Ong, 45, was a flight attendant from Andover, Massachusetts.
Jean Roger, 24, was a flight attendant from Longmeadow, Massachusetts.
Dianne Snyder, 42, was a flight attendant from Westport, Massachusetts.
Madeline Sweeney, 35, was a flight attendant from Acton, Massachusetts.
PASSENGERS
Anna Williams Allison, 48, of Stoneham, Massachusetts, was the founder of A2 Software Solutions, a firm that assists companies in software development. Allison had more than 19 years' experience in the software development industry and was a frequent speaker and trainer at national and local conferences.
David Angell, 54, of Pasadena, California, was the creator and executive producer of the hit NBC sitcom "Frasier." A native of West Barrington, Rhode Island, Angell entered the Army after graduating from college and served at the Pentagon until 1972. He worked in insurance and engineering before selling a script for a TV series in 1977. In 1983, he joined the TV series "Cheers" as a staff writer and began working with co-supervising producers Peter Casey and David Lee. This team formed a production company, creating and producing "Wings" in 1990 and "Frasier" in 1993. The trio won 24 Emmys.
Lynn Angell, 45, of Pasadena, California, was the wife of "Frasier" creator and executive producer David Angell. The Angells were returning from a wedding on the East Coast to attend the Emmy Awards.
Seima Aoyama
Myra Aronson, 52, of Charlestown, Massachusetts, was a press and analyst relations manager for Compuware Corp.
Christine Barbuto, 32, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California on a buying trip. Barbuto is survived her father and two sisters. She had worked for TJX for five years.
Berry Berenson, 53, of Los Angeles, California, was an actress and photographer. She was the widow of actor Anthony Perkins, who died in 1992, and sister of actress and model Marisa Berenson. She is survived by two sons, Osgood, an actor, and Elvis. Born into an aristocratic family, Berenson appeared in the movies "Cat People" (1982), "Winter Kills" (1979) and "Remember My Name" (1978).
Carolyn Beug, 48, of Los Angeles, California, was traveling with her mother, Mary Wahlstrom. They had gone to Boston to drop off relatives at a nearby college and were returning home.
Carol Bouchard, 43, of Warwick, Rhode Island, was a Kent County Hospital emergency room secretary.
Robin Caplin was from Natick, Massachusetts.
Neilie Casey, 32, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She worked for TJX for eight years. Casey is survived by her husband and a 7-month-old daughter.
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, of Abington, Massachusetts, was a security analyst for Compaq Computer. He is survived by his wife, Christie, and three children, Meagan, 10; Julia, 7; and Matt, 12.
Tara Creamer, 30, of Worcester, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She had worked for TJX for eight years. Creamer is survived by her husband, John, and two children, Colin, 4, and Nora, 1.
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, was a Wilmot, New Hampshire, resident with 10 grandchildren. She was on her way to visit a sister in California. Daughter Cheryl O'Brien gave her mom a ride to catch a bus to Logan International Airport in Boston. "I was the last one to see her," O'Brien said. "I got to kiss her and say 'I love you' and 'Have a nice trip.' "
Patrick Currivan
Andrew Curry Green was from Chelmsford, Massachusetts.
Brian Dale, 43, of Warren, New Jersey, was an accountant and attorney with Blue Capital Management. He was married and the father of three.
David DiMeglio was from Wakefield, Massachusetts.
Donald Ditullio, 49, was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Albert Dominguez, 66, was a baggage handler for Qantas Airways in Sydney, Australia. He was traveling on holiday at the time of his death. He was married with four children.
Alex Filipov, 70, was an electrical engineer from Concord, Massachusetts.
Carol Flyzik, 40, was from Plaistow, New Hampshire.
Paul Friedman, 45, from Belmont, Massachusetts, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting.
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a senior investment analyst for John Hancock.
Peter Gay, 54, of Tewksbury, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. vice president of operations for electronic systems based in Andover, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for more than 28 years.
Linda George, 27, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California on a buying trip. George is survived by her father, mother, sister and brother. She was engaged to be married.
Edmund Glazer, 41, of Los Angeles, California, was the chief financial officer and vice president of finance and administration of MRV Communications, a Chatsworth, California, firm that focuses on optical components and network infrastructure systems. Glazer was survived by his wife, Candy, and son, Nathan.
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, of Needham, Massachusetts, was an assistant vice president, merchandise manager, for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California on a buying trip. Gordenstein is survived by her husband and two children.
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, was a spiritual adviser from Newton, Massachusetts.
Peter Hashem, 40, was an engineer from Tewksbury, Massachusetts.
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts was a sales engineer with Netstal.
Ted Hennessy, 35, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting in Belmont, Massachusetts.
John Hofer
Cora Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts, was with Sudbury Food Pantry, an interdenominational program that assisted needy families, at Our Lady of Fatima Church.
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts, was the owner of Brae Burn Management.
John Jenkins
Charles Jones, 48, was a computer programmer from Bedford, Massachusetts.
Robin Kaplan, 33, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a senior store equipment specialist for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California to help prepare for a new T.J. Maxx store opening. Kaplan had returned to work this year after battling Crohn's disease, a life-threatening inflammatory illness of the gastrointestinal tract. She is survived by her father, Edward Kaplan, and mother, Francine.
Barbara Keating, 72, was from Palm Springs, California.
David Kovalcin, 42, of Hudson, New Hampshire, was a Raytheon Co. senior mechanical engineer for electronic systems in Tewksbury, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for 15 years.
Judy Larocque, 50, of Framingham, Massachusetts, was the founder and CEO of Market Perspectives, a research firm that offers online and on-site surveys. Before founding the company in 1993, she was the principal of Emergent Marketing, an executive marketing consulting firm.
Jude Larson, 31, was from Los Angeles, California.
Natalie Larson was from Los Angeles, California.
N. Janis Lasden, 46, of General Electric was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Daniel John Lee, 34, was from Los Angeles, California.
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, was the co-founder and chief technology officer at Akamai Technologies Inc., a Cambridge, Massachusetts, company that produces technology equipment to facilitate online content delivery. He is survived by his wife and two sons. He founded Akamai in 1998 with scientist Tom Leighton and a group of Massachusetts Institute of Technology scientists and business professionals. Lewin was responsible for the company's research and development strategy.
Susan MacKay, 44, of Westford, Massachusetts, was an employee of TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions.
Chris Mello, 25, was a financial analyst with Alta Communications from Boston. He graduated from Princeton University with a degree in psychology. He is survived by his parents, Douglas and Ellen Mello of Rye, New York; a brother, John Douglas Mello of New York City; and his paternal grandmother, Alice Mello, of Barefoot Bay, Florida.
Jeff Mladenik, 43, of Hinsdale, Illinois, was the interim president at E-Logic.
Antonio Montoya
Carlos Montoya
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, was the Qantas Airways area sales manager in Boston. She lived in Framingham, Massachusetts, with her husband. She was traveling on company business at the time of her death.
Mildred Naiman was from Andover, Massachusetts.
Laurie Neira
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island, was a customer service agent with American Airlines.
Jacqueline Norton, 60, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. She was traveling with her husband, Robert Norton.
Robert Norton, 82, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. He was traveling with his wife, Jacqueline Norton.
Jane Orth, 49, of Haverhill, Massachusetts, was retired from Lucent Technology.
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California, was a cameraman for Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television.
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts, was a retired ballet dancer.
David Retik was from Needham, Massachusetts. He was a general partner and founding member of Alta Communications, a Boston-based investment firm specializing in communication industries. Retik graduated from Colgate University and received a master's in accounting from New York University. He is survived by his wife, Susan and their two children, Ben and Molly.
Philip Rosenzweig of Acton, Massachusetts, was an executive with Sun Microsystems.
Richard Ross, 58, of Newton, Massachusetts, headed his own management consulting company, the Ross Group.
Jessica Sachs, 22, of Billerica, Massachusetts was an accountant with PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Rahma Salie, 28, was from Boston.
Heather Smith, 30, of Beacon Capital Partners was from Boston.
Douglas Stone, 54, was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Xavier Suarez
Michael Theodoridis, 32, was a consultant from Boston.
James Trentini, 65, was a retired teacher and assistant principal from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Trentini, 67, was a retired secretary from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Wahlstrom, 75, of Kaysville, Utah, was traveling with her daughter, Carolyn Beug. They had gone to Boston to drop off relatives at a nearby college and were returning home.
Kenneth Waldie, 46, of Methuen, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. senior quality control engineer for electronic systems in Tewksbury, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for 17 years.
John Wenckus, 46, was a tax consultant from Torrance, California.
Candace Lee Williams, 20, was a student from Danbury, Connecticut.
Christopher Zarba, 47, of Hopkinton, Massachusetts, was a software engineer at Concord Communications. He leaves behind a wife and family. He would have been 48 on September 15.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93
United Airlines Flight 93, from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania, with 45 people on board.
CREW
Jason Dahl, 43, from Denver, Colorado, was the plane's captain. He had a wife and son. Dahl had a lifelong interest in flying, said his aunt, Maxine Atkinson, of Waterloo, Iowa.
Leroy Homer, 36, from Marlton, New Jersey, was the first officer on board. He was married and had a daughter.
Lorraine Bay was a flight attendant.
Sandra Bradshaw, 38, of Greensboro, North Carolina, was a flight attendant.
Wanda Green was a flight attendant.
CeeCee Lyles of Fort Myers, Florida, was a flight attendant. She reached her husband, Lorne, by cell phone to tell him that she loved him and their children before the plane went down. The couple between them had four children.
Deborah Welsh was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Christian Adams
Todd Beamer, 32, was from Cranbury, New Jersey.
Alan Beaven, 48, of Oakland, California, was an environmental lawyer.
Mark Bingham, 31, of San Francisco owned a public relations firm, the Bingham Group. He called his mother, Alice Hoglan, 15 minutes before the plane crashed and told her that the plane had been taken over by three men who claimed to have a bomb. Hoglan said her son told her that some passengers planned to try to regain control of the plane. "He said, 'I love you very, very much, ' " Hoglan said.
Deora Bodley, 20, of Santa Clara, California, was a university student.
Marion Britton
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, of San Ramon, California, was a senior vice president and chief operating officer of Thoratec Corp., a medical research and development company, and the father of three. He made four calls to his wife, Deena, from the plane. Deena Burnett said that her husband told her that one passenger had been stabbed and that "a group of us are going to do something." He also told her that the people on board knew about the attack on the World Trade Center, apparently through other phone calls.
William Cashman
Georgine Corrigan
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Felt, 41, was from Matawan, New Jersey.
Colleen Fraser
Andrew Garcia
Jeremy Glick, 31, from West Milford, New Jersey, called his wife, Liz, and in-laws in New York on a cell phone to tell them the plane had been hijacked, Joanne Makely, Glick's mother-in-law, told CNN. Glick said that one of the hijackers "had a red box he said was a bomb, and one had a knife of some nature," Makely said. Glick asked Makely if the reports about the attacks on the World Trade Center were true, and she told him they were. He left the phone for a while, returning to say, "The men voted to attack the terrorists," Makely said.
Lauren Grandcolas of San Rafael, California, was a sales worker at Good Housekeeping magazine.
Donald F. Green, 52, was from Greenwich, Connecticut.
Linda Gronlund
Richard Guadagno, 38, of Eureka, California, was the manager of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Humboldt Bay National Wildlife Refuge.
Toshiya Kuge
Waleska Martinez
Nicole Miller
Mark Rothenberg
Christine Snyder, 32, was from Kailua, Hawaii. She was an arborist for the Outdoor Circle and was returning from a conference in Washington. She had been married less than a year.
John Talignani
Honor Wainio
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175
United Airlines Flight 175, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, was the second hijacked plane to strike the World Trade Center, plowing into the south tower. Two pilots, seven flight attendants and 56 passengers were on board.
CREW
Capt. Victor Saracini, 51, of Lower Makefield Township, Pennsylvania, was a Navy veteran. He is survived by his wife and two children.
Michael Horrocks was first officer.
Robert J. Fangman was a flight attendant.
Amy N. Jarret, 28, of North Smithfield, Rhode Island, was a flight attendant.
Amy R. King was a flight attendant.
Kathryn L. Laborie was a flight attendant.
Alfred G. Marchand of Alamogordo, New Mexico, was a flight attendant.
Michael C. Tarrou was a flight attendant.
Alicia N. Titus was a flight atteandant.
PASSENGERS
Alona Avraham, 30, was from Ashdot, Israel.
Garnet "Ace" Bailey, 53, of Lynnfield, Massachusetts, was director of pro scouting for the Los Angeles Kings hockey team. Bailey was entering his 33rd season as a player or scout in the National Hockey League and his eighth with the Kings. Before joining the Kings, he spent 13 years as a scout for the Edmonton Oilers, a team that won five Stanley Cups during that time. As a player, Bailey spent five years with the Boston Bruins and was a member of Stanley Cup championship teams in 1969-70 and 1971-72. Bailey also spent parts of two seasons each with the Detroit Red Wings and St. Louis Blues, and three years with the Washington Capitals. He is survived by his wife, Katherine, and son, Todd.
Mark Bavis, 31, of West Newton, Massachusetts, was entering his second season as an amateur scout for the Los Angeles Kings. A Boston native, he played four years on Boston University's hockey team, where his twin brother, Michael, is an assistant coach. In addition to his twin brother, Bavis is survived by his mother, Mary; two other brothers, Pat and Johnny; and three sisters, Kelly, Mary Ellen and Kathy. The Bavis family lost a brother 15 years ago, and Bavis' father died 10 years ago.
Graham Berkeley, 37, of Xerox Corp. was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, was from Beverly Hills, California.
Klaus Bothe, 31, of Germany was on a business trip with BCT Technology AG's chief executive officer and another executive. Bothe joined the company in 1994 and was its director of development. He is survived by his wife and one child.
Daniel Brandhorst, of Los Angeles, California, was a lawyer for PriceWaterhouse.
David Brandhorst, 3, was from Los Angeles.
John Cahill was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, of Turner Falls, Massachusetts, was staff assistant in the office of information technology at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.
John Corcoran "Jay" Corcoran, 44, of Norwell, Massachusetts, was a merchant marine.
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, was from Long Beach, California.
Gloria Debarrera
Lisa Frost, 22, of Rancho Santa Margarita, California, graduated from Boston University this year, with degrees in communications and business hospitality. She is survived by her father, mother and brother.
Ronald Gamboa, 33, of Los Angeles, California, was a Gap store manager.
Lynn Goodchild, 25, was from Attleboro, Massachusetts.
The Rev. Francis E. Grogan, 76, of Easton, Massachusetts, was a priest at Holy Cross Church in Easton. A veteran of World War II, Grogan served as a parish priest, a chaplain and teacher at Holy Cross schools.
Carl Hammond, 37, was from Boston, Massachusetts.
Peter Hanson, 32, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a software salesman.
Susan Hanson, 35, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a student.
Christine Hanson, 3, was from Groton, Massachusetts.
Gerald Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James E. Hayden, 47, of Westford, Massachusetts, was the chief financial officer of Netegrity Inc. Hayden is survived by his wife, Gail, and their two children.
Herbert Homer,48, of Milford, Massachusetts, worked for Raytheon Co.
Robert Jalbert, 61, of Swampscott, Massachusetts, was a salesman.
Ralph Kershaw, 52, of Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts, was a marine surveyor.
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman and chief executive officer of BCT Technology Ag, of Germany was on a business trip involving contract negotiations with U.S. partners along with two other BCT execs, the company said in a statement. Kimmig studied mechanical engineering in college. After an internship, he became the design manager at Badische Stahl Engineering, and shortly after, he founded BSE Computer-Technologie GmbH, originally a locally operating software company. In 1999, this company became BCT Technology AG. Kimmig is survived by his wife and two children.
Brian Kinney, 29, of Lowell, Massachusetts, was an auditor for PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Robert LeBlanc, 70, of Lee, New Hampshire, was a professor emeritus of geography at the University of New Hampshire. After earning his doctorate at the University of Minnesota, LeBlanc joined the University of New Hampshire's faculty in 1963 as a cultural geographer. With a specialty in Canadian studies, he looked at the Franco-American communities in New England's mill towns. He was acting chair and chair of the geography department for nearly 10 years, retiring in 1999.
Maclovio "Joe" Lopez Jr., 41, was from Norwalk, California.
Marianne MacFarlane
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, was from Derry, New Hampshire.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, was from New London, Connecticut.
Ruth McCourt, 24, was from Westford, Massachusetts.
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, of Germany joined BCT Technology AG in 2000 as director of human resources. He is survived by his wife and one child. Menzel had planned to retire in six months.
Shawn Nassaney, 25, was from Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Patrick Quigley, 40, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a partner at PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Frederick Rimmele was a physician from Marblehead, Massachusetts.
James M. Roux, 42, was from Portland, Maine.
Jesus Sanchez, 45, was an off-duty flight attendant from Hudson, Massachusetts.
Kathleen Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Robert Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Jane Simpkin, 35, was from Wayland, Massachusetts.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, was from Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Timothy Ward, 38, of San Diego, California, worked at the Carlsbad, California-based Rubio's Restaurants Inc. A 14-year veteran of the company, he opened its second restaurant in San Diego and most recently worked in the information technology department.
William Weems of Marblehead, Massachusetts, was a commercial producer.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.
CREW
Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.
Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175
United Airlines Flight 175, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, was the second hijacked plane to strike the World Trade Center, plowing into the south tower. Two pilots, seven flight attendants and 56 passengers were on board.
CREW
Capt. Victor Saracini, 51, of Lower Makefield Township, Pennsylvania, was a Navy veteran. He is survived by his wife and two children.
Michael Horrocks was first officer.
Robert J. Fangman was a flight attendant.
Amy N. Jarret, 28, of North Smithfield, Rhode Island, was a flight attendant.
Amy R. King was a flight attendant.
Kathryn L. Laborie was a flight attendant.
Alfred G. Marchand of Alamogordo, New Mexico, was a flight attendant.
Michael C. Tarrou was a flight attendant.
Alicia N. Titus was a flight atteandant.
PASSENGERS
Alona Avraham, 30, was from Ashdot, Israel.
Garnet "Ace" Bailey, 53, of Lynnfield, Massachusetts, was director of pro scouting for the Los Angeles Kings hockey team. Bailey was entering his 33rd season as a player or scout in the National Hockey League and his eighth with the Kings. Before joining the Kings, he spent 13 years as a scout for the Edmonton Oilers, a team that won five Stanley Cups during that time. As a player, Bailey spent five years with the Boston Bruins and was a member of Stanley Cup championship teams in 1969-70 and 1971-72. Bailey also spent parts of two seasons each with the Detroit Red Wings and St. Louis Blues, and three years with the Washington Capitals. He is survived by his wife, Katherine, and son, Todd.
Mark Bavis, 31, of West Newton, Massachusetts, was entering his second season as an amateur scout for the Los Angeles Kings. A Boston native, he played four years on Boston University's hockey team, where his twin brother, Michael, is an assistant coach. In addition to his twin brother, Bavis is survived by his mother, Mary; two other brothers, Pat and Johnny; and three sisters, Kelly, Mary Ellen and Kathy. The Bavis family lost a brother 15 years ago, and Bavis' father died 10 years ago.
Graham Berkeley, 37, of Xerox Corp. was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, was from Beverly Hills, California.
Klaus Bothe, 31, of Germany was on a business trip with BCT Technology AG's chief executive officer and another executive. Bothe joined the company in 1994 and was its director of development. He is survived by his wife and one child.
Daniel Brandhorst, of Los Angeles, California, was a lawyer for PriceWaterhouse.
David Brandhorst, 3, was from Los Angeles.
John Cahill was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, of Turner Falls, Massachusetts, was staff assistant in the office of information technology at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.
John Corcoran "Jay" Corcoran, 44, of Norwell, Massachusetts, was a merchant marine.
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, was from Long Beach, California.
Gloria Debarrera
Lisa Frost, 22, of Rancho Santa Margarita, California, graduated from Boston University this year, with degrees in communications and business hospitality. She is survived by her father, mother and brother.
Ronald Gamboa, 33, of Los Angeles, California, was a Gap store manager.
Lynn Goodchild, 25, was from Attleboro, Massachusetts.
The Rev. Francis E. Grogan, 76, of Easton, Massachusetts, was a priest at Holy Cross Church in Easton. A veteran of World War II, Grogan served as a parish priest, a chaplain and teacher at Holy Cross schools.
Carl Hammond, 37, was from Boston, Massachusetts.
Peter Hanson, 32, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a software salesman.
Susan Hanson, 35, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a student.
Christine Hanson, 3, was from Groton, Massachusetts.
Gerald Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James E. Hayden, 47, of Westford, Massachusetts, was the chief financial officer of Netegrity Inc. Hayden is survived by his wife, Gail, and their two children.
Herbert Homer,48, of Milford, Massachusetts, worked for Raytheon Co.
Robert Jalbert, 61, of Swampscott, Massachusetts, was a salesman.
Ralph Kershaw, 52, of Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts, was a marine surveyor.
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman and chief executive officer of BCT Technology Ag, of Germany was on a business trip involving contract negotiations with U.S. partners along with two other BCT execs, the company said in a statement. Kimmig studied mechanical engineering in college. After an internship, he became the design manager at Badische Stahl Engineering, and shortly after, he founded BSE Computer-Technologie GmbH, originally a locally operating software company. In 1999, this company became BCT Technology AG. Kimmig is survived by his wife and two children.
Brian Kinney, 29, of Lowell, Massachusetts, was an auditor for PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Robert LeBlanc, 70, of Lee, New Hampshire, was a professor emeritus of geography at the University of New Hampshire. After earning his doctorate at the University of Minnesota, LeBlanc joined the University of New Hampshire's faculty in 1963 as a cultural geographer. With a specialty in Canadian studies, he looked at the Franco-American communities in New England's mill towns. He was acting chair and chair of the geography department for nearly 10 years, retiring in 1999.
Maclovio "Joe" Lopez Jr., 41, was from Norwalk, California.
Marianne MacFarlane
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, was from Derry, New Hampshire.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, was from New London, Connecticut.
Ruth McCourt, 24, was from Westford, Massachusetts.
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, of Germany joined BCT Technology AG in 2000 as director of human resources. He is survived by his wife and one child. Menzel had planned to retire in six months.
Shawn Nassaney, 25, was from Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Patrick Quigley, 40, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a partner at PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Frederick Rimmele was a physician from Marblehead, Massachusetts.
James M. Roux, 42, was from Portland, Maine.
Jesus Sanchez, 45, was an off-duty flight attendant from Hudson, Massachusetts.
Kathleen Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Robert Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Jane Simpkin, 35, was from Wayland, Massachusetts.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, was from Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Timothy Ward, 38, of San Diego, California, worked at the Carlsbad, California-based Rubio's Restaurants Inc. A 14-year veteran of the company, he opened its second restaurant in San Diego and most recently worked in the information technology department.
William Weems of Marblehead, Massachusetts, was a commercial producer.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.
CREW
Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.
Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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hail, hail.
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infatti questo è l'elenco delle vittime senza i terroristi
basta semplicemente manovrare e scegliere fonti a proprio piacimento, credo che non esista nemmeno in rete l'elenco ufficiale completo, ma solo quello delle vittime americane.
tra parentesi c'è il numero ufficiale dichiarato dei passeggeri e vicino il numero di passeggeri da te riportato.
volo 11 : 87 (92)
volo 175 : 57 (62)
volo 77 : 59 (64)
volo 93 : 37 (41)
come dire, manca giusto qualche nome.
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Continui ad essere in malafede. Ma daltronde l'unico complotto che vedi è quello contro la Juve.
La lista passeggeri sono i nomi che le compagnie aeree hanno imbarcato quel giorno.Non le liste delle vittime.
Ed aggiungo un'altra confutazione che dimostra forse non la malafede, ma un ignoranza totale in materia.CITAZIONEX - Nonostante debbano esistere per forza, non ci è mai stata mostrata una sola immagine che permetta di identificare con chiarezza i dirottatori agli imbarchi dei 4 aerei. L'unica in cui è riconoscibile Mohammed Attà, stranamente non appartiene al volo dirottato, ma a un volo precedente.
Qui tu è evidente che non sai nemmeno di cosa parli.
La prova di Atta Terrorista è un fotogramma con l'orario delle 05.37, cioè il momento in cui si imbarca per prendere l'aereo che lo porterà (e con solo mezzora di tempo per lo scalo.... cazzo... rischiava di saltare tutto perchè non volevano svegliarsi prima o andare là il giorno precedente!!!) all'aeroporto da dove partirà il volo da lui poi dirottato.
E allora non dire che falso o confutato: è falso mostrare come prova del suo imbarco, l'imbarco su un altro aereo che quello è provato aver preso non solo dalle immagini, ma dal fatto che il suo nome figura sulla lista passeggeri.
E gli avvoltoi siamo noi...............
Le liste passeggeri.
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hail, hail.
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io non vedo nessun complotto contro la juve
li vedo ovunque ma non contro la juve
vuoi parlare di calcio, madri, figli mai nati?...scegli tu l'argomento di sviamento che preferisci questo giro, per me è uguale.
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Le immagini si vedono... i link sono attivi. Prova a guardare se hai impostazioni particolari.
Se fai proprietà vedi infatti il link per esteso: al limite copialo nel browser gurdare in un'altra finestra.
L'unico che svia qua sei tu, che sei convinto di sapere tutto ma alla fine quella è l'unica cosa della quale sei certo.
Poi lo sviare... sei tu che stai continuando ad insultarmi.
Io non svio da nessuna parte: giro su questo argomento da circa 3 anni, e non sono di sicuro io quello che cambia argomento.
Al limite ci sei tu che devi sviare dal fulcro della questione e poi condire i tuoi interventi con insulti, perchè ti manca la buona educazione dell'accettare che qualcuno non ti dia ragione o che non la pensi come te.. -
hail, hail.
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allora vai nella pagina precedente
trovi un po' di centinaia di domande che hai superato di slancio
le immagini non si vedono. le vedi tu perchè le hai nei cookies
se vuoi te ne copio alcune...tipo, cos', ma non sei obbligato a rispondere per forza
puoi sempre copiaincollareCITAZIONE.....e allora hanno preso la decisione di PULL ed abbiamo guardato l'edificio cadere".
a)....e allora hanno preso la decisione di evacuare e abbiamo guardato l'edificio cadere
b).....e allora hanno preso la decisione di abbatterlo e abbiamo guardato l'edificio cadere
e fin qua una intepretazione potrebbe valere quanto l'altra...
però si nota che nella prima frase (oltre al significato corretto di PULL riferito ai vigili, considerato che i vigili non abbattono edifici e che quando i vigili gridano PULL intendono evacuazione "tiriamoci fuori") che c'è una consecutio logica: avendo evacuato ABBIAMO POTUTO GUARDARE l'edificio cadere-> leggasi, grazie all'evacuazione non ci sono state altre perdite per fortuna.
si nota invece nella frase B che viene aggiunta una indicazione del tutto inutile: abbiamo deciso di abbatterlo e abbiamo guardato l'edificio cadere.
e perchè aggiungere la seconda parte quando la frase era finità là: ABBIAMO DECISO DI ABBATTERE L'EDIFICIO. fine, punto, stop....e invece no. viene aggiunta una frase del tutto inutile e slegata.
io non ho visto dei video di testimoni del pentagono che parlano di missili e monoposti.
se esistono vorrei vederli, magari dalle facce si capisce che si drogano.
ma non avevo già postato il video dove si vede che è un aereo?
se lo posto ogni giorno per i prossimi 5 anni magari diventa una verità.
ah cmq le immagini si vedono copiando il link nel browser
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A parte che ti ho risposto eccome, sul tuo video dove si vede l'aereo, ti ho risposto a suo tempo, in questo topic, quindi non vedo perchè ritirarlo fuori.
Sui testimoni... ti ho risposto nella pagina precedente:CITAZIONETestimonianze oculari: c'è anche gente che dice aver visto un aereo di 7 o 8 posti, controllori di volo che parlano di avvicinamento identico a quello di un missile, altri che dicono che quello non era un boieng.
Il problema è che i sostenitori della versione ufficiale queste persone non le considerano proprio, e quindi io non ho una versione non ufficiale per spiegare chi dice di aver visto l'aereo.
Sulla disquisizione di Silverstein: ti ho detto che non la penso così. Punto. E comunque, ribadisco, non è sicuramente il nodo cruciale dell'11 Settembre.
Indipendentemente da quella frase, il tutto rimane per me una montatura.
Come chiamare una lista di 19 persone dove 6 sono accertati essere vivi dalla Bbc già a dicembre 201?
Mi viene il dubbio che scorri un pò troppo velocemente i post.
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hail, hail.
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CITAZIONEX - Sulle liste passeggeri, inoltre, non compariva un solo nome arabo.
hai postato le fotocopie delle liste.
nella prima immagine ci sono 3 nomi arabiCITAZIONEil tutto rimane per me una montatura.
forse scorro velocemente ma mi pare che nemmeno 3 pagine fa tu abbia detto che ti poni solo delle domande...
cmq non divaghiamo, abbiamo parlato di 2 fatti precisi dopo aver visto Matrix.
1) pull non significa demolire
2) nella lista dei passeggeri ci sono i nomi arabi
se hai qualche altra richiesta precisa di confutazioni chiedi pure.
possibilmente senza passare per la juve e la mia educazione avvoltoio di merda
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CITAZIONEfatelo pure...vedete che nella sola prima immagine ci sono 4 nomi arabi.... poi se qalcuno ha voglia continui a dar retta ad adam dopo questa....
Si ma te ci fai o ci sei?
Il volo 77 non presenta un nome arabo, ed almeno 6 di quelli dati per morti sono vivi.
Dopo questa, mi venisse un colpo se perdo altri due minuti a postare delle cose a gente come te.
Ti lascio libero di postare che è tutto falso, tanto poi il probelma non si pone nemmeno.
Indipendentemente dalla sua autenticità o meno, in nome di quello, gli USA hanno scatenato guerre inventate uccidendo centinaia di migliaia di persone.
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hail, hail.
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per inciso, la testimonianza oculare fuori dal pentagono più vicina a "ho visto un missile schiantarsi sul pentagono" è "non ho visto niente, ho sentito solo un gran botto".
e quella più vicina a "ho visto un monoposto schiantarsi sul pentagono" è "ho visto un aereo schiantarsi sul pentagono, non so che aereo fosse"
ma la cosa più bella è che i complottisti dicono: c'è gente che ha visto un missile, gente che ha visto un monoposto, gente che ha visto un boeing.....vabeh quelli del boeing scartiamoli (il 99% degli intervistati sul posto) consideriamo solo quelli dei missili o del monoposto....vabeh missili o monoposto...è lo stesso...
se loro non considerano questo 1% di allucinati, perchè noi dovremmo credere al 99% che ha visto il boeing?
che è quello che tu dici qua:CITAZIONEIl problema è che i sostenitori della versione ufficiale queste persone non le considerano proprio, e quindi io non ho una versione non ufficiale per spiegare chi dice di aver visto l'aereo.
fate solo schifo. vendete i libricini e i dvd vendeteli.CITAZIONE (AdamClayton @ 13/9/2006, 20:22)CITAZIONEfatelo pure...vedete che nella sola prima immagine ci sono 4 nomi arabi.... poi se qalcuno ha voglia continui a dar retta ad adam dopo questa....
Si ma te ci fai o ci sei?
Il volo 77 non presenta un nome arabo, ed almeno 6 di quelli dati per morti sono vivi.
ti ripeto la frase, scritta da mazzucco o chi cazzo è, che ho crocettato
LE LISTE DEI PASSEGGERI (DI TUTTI GLI AEREI) NON CONTENGONO UN SOLO NOME ARABO
e solo questo basterebbe per mandarti affanculo perchè tu ora dici "il volo 77 non contiene nomi arabi" (altra cosa falsa).
devo continuare o ti posso mandare affanculo?CITAZIONE (AdamClayton @ 13/9/2006, 20:22)Ti lascio libero di postare
grazie anche tu volteriano..... anch'io darei la mia vita perchè tu possa postare la marea di stronzate e articoli spazzatura che posti ogni giornio. -
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CITAZIONEfate solo schifo.CITAZIONEdevo continuare o ti posso mandare affanculo?CITAZIONEavvoltoio di merda
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hail, hail.
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e allora?
vai a dire alla mamma che hail ti offende, corri che ti cade il moccolo
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Discussione sul 9/11 con Andrea Moriggi di Libero
Fatti contro parole. A questo si riduce, come mostra questa discussione, il "dibattito" sul 9/11.
Registrazione di uno scambio particolarmente "pesante" fra il sottoscritto (Massimo Mazzucco) e un giornalista di Libero, andato in onda poco fa su Radio Spazio Aperto.
http://luogocomune.net/site/modules/mydown...hp?cid=9&lid=88
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